Kamala Harris’ first interview on Fox News was a controversial affair, and at times she and Bret Baier talked over each other.

But while the vice president repeatedly dodged some questions, she also had several moments where it seemed like she was rebelling against her least favorite network — no doubt something she hoped to achieve.

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She showed passion, even anger, raising her voice to a question about how most of the country believed we were on the wrong track. She said Donald Trump was “unfit to serve” and “unstable.” Turning questions into criticism of the former president was her signature move.

But what about half the country supporting him, Baier asked. “Are they stupid?”

Side by side Bret Baier and Kamala Harris. (Fox News Media/Getty Images)

No, but “he’s the one who tends to demean, belittle and belittle,” Harris said. Trump is the one who talks about “an enemy within” and uses the military against Americans. “He’s talking about locking people up because they don’t agree with him.”

Several times she told Baier “you and I both know it” before throwing a grenade at Trump, trying to project an image of standing up to both Fox and her opponent. She wanted this fight.

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Among the questions Harris didn’t want to answer:

Does she support taxpayer-funded transgender surgery for federal prisoners, as she did in 2019? “I will follow the law,” she said bluntly, emphasizing that Trump had done the same. (The Trump camp responded that the first such operation took place in 2022, during her term.)

Didn’t she know Joe Biden was downsized? She danced around it.

Bret Baier interviews Kamala Harris on Fox News. (Fox News channel)

Why hasn’t she made progress on these issues during her time as vice president?

“My presidency will not be a continuation of Joe Biden’s presidency,” she said, noting that she has not spent most of her life in Washington. That was a cleanup from her disastrous response on “The View” that she couldn’t think of anything that made her different from the president.

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The Fox host spent the first part of the interview focusing on immigration, following up again and again to pin her down.

At first, Harris admitted the obvious: “We have a broken immigration system that needs to be fixed.”

Why didn’t you fix it? Trump killed their most recent attempt at a bipartisan bill, though nothing was accomplished with Democrats controlling both houses of Congress.

Laken Riley’s murder gripped the nation. (ELIJAH NOUVELAGE/AFP via Getty Images)

Had she changed her position since her 2019 campaign, when she said border crossings should be made legal?

“I don’t believe in decriminalizing border crossings,” Harris responded, without explaining the change.

When asked about crimes committed by illegal immigrants, such as the murder of Laken Riley, Harris called these “tragic cases” and said her heart went out to their families.

There were times when her answers seemed thin, and other times when she squeezed in a litany of her suggestions.

The confrontational session was Harris’ first of this short campaign, after a series of softball conversations in which people openly supported her candidacy.

Fox News got the exclusive, and Harris got what she wanted: a challenging half-hour in which she could try to change the minds of by far the largest audience in cable news.

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She should abandon her friends like Howard Stern and Stephen Colbert and do tougher interviews, because that’s how you show voters that you can handle the heat.