Fox News host Bret Baier summarized his Wednesday night interview with Vice President Kamala Harris, telling his colleagues that he got the sense early on that Harris would be “hard to direct without me trying to interrupt him.”

The interview, Harris’ first on the right-wing network since becoming the Democratic nominee, aired on Special report after being filmed for the past hour. According to Baier, the interview was scheduled for 5 p.m., but Harris showed up 15 minutes late. This, he complained, was like “freezing the kicker” in football.

“We were supposed to start at 5 p.m. This was the time they gave us. Originally we were going to do 25 or 30 minutes. They came in and said, “Well, maybe twenty.” So it is already getting less. And then the vice president showed up around 5:15 p.m. We were moving the envelope around so we could turn it around around 6pm. So that’s how it started,” Baier said.

The Fox host, who would interrupt Harris’ comments several times, said their first conversation — about immigration — showed she would be “tough.”

“When we started talking, I could tell it would be difficult to direct her in another direction without trying to interrupt her,” said Baier, who compared his experience to interviewing Barack Obama years ago. “I did this with President Obama – at one point I just said, ‘Mr. President, I know you love filibustering.” Sometimes I didn’t even have the chance to redirect that way. I had many more questions.”

Baier later said that toward the end of the interview, he could see members of Harris’ team signaling that his time was up.

“I’m talking about four people waving their hands like it has to stop,” he said, adding that Harris might benefit from doing similar interviews in the future.

“Maybe she should do this more often,” he said.

Later, in an interview with conservative personality Mark Levin, Baier expanded, saying, “There was a little bit of frustration” and that “I had so many things to accomplish.

“I was hoping it would be that civilized back and forth but it was good for her to come and I think she should do more of it but I was just trying to get through the topics of conversation and it took a while, and it was kind of, you know, pausing, and kind of inhaling.

“They wanted a viral moment,” Baier suggested, reiterating that his initial time had reportedly been shortened by the Harris campaign and that Harris was late.

“I really hoped it would go the way I envisioned it, which was more like a conversation about topics. We could say, “You have differences, this is where I am,” I would urge in a respectful way. And I’ve done a lot of those interviews where it’s very fruitful to go back and forth and you end up somewhere, and you actually learn something about policies and where they are. Then I thought: it could be done differently. This may be for a viral moment and essentially this is an exercise for a debate and so I need to be able to answer my questions as much as possible in a respectful but firm manner and hope that she comes back if she is. in a different, talkative mood and we learn more.”